Warning: Windows 11's big 2024 update takes a long time to install

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How long will it take to update your PC to the Windows 11 2024 Update? If my tests are any indicator, you’d be twiddling your thumbs for a lot longer than usual.

Microsoft characterizes Windows 11 24H2, formally known as the Windows 11 2024 Update, as a “full OS swap.” Until now, Microsoft pushed incremental updates to your PC, with only the code needed to perform security or feature updates. The language that Microsoft is using now implies that this is a much more involved process and that seems to be true.

I tested downloading and installing Windows 11 24H2 on four separate laptops. Each took at least an hour to install and some much more. Put another way, this isn’t something that you can take care of quickly — quite a change from the quick Windows 11 feature updates of the last few years.

The Windows 11 2024 Update is beginning to roll out now, though the actual process will be performed in phases. The update is free. You have several options to update, as our story notes, including setting your Windows Update settings to ask for the latest updates as soon as they’re available. You can also download Windows 11 directly from Microsoft, either as an ISO file or using the Windows 11 Installation Assistant.

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For whatever reason, downloading a Windows 11 24H2 ISO stalled out repeatedly, so I chose to create a Windows 11 installation media, the other option. That tool gives you the choice of either downloading Windows to an external drive, or an ISO file that you can mount to a DVD.

Windows offers a more convenient option, however. Simply right-click the ISO file and “mount” it in a virtual drive on your PC. That opens up a virtual drive, where you can simply click the “setup” icon to launch the process. You can store the ISO on a handy DVD or USB key (the ISO is about 4.4GB) and then just move it from PC to PC.

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So to upgrade, I simply:

Used the Windows 11 Installation Assistant to download a copy of Windows. (Windows 11 24H2 is selected automatically).Selected the “ISO” option.When the download completed, I right-clicked the file and mounted it using File Explorer.I clicked “Setup” and launched the update process.

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Ideally, you’ll have already updated your PC before you begin the process. Installing Windows 11 24H2 won’t erase your personal files or applications, but it’s a good idea to have them backed up anyway. Some of you prefer a “clean install” of a new OS. Since this is a “full OS swap,” this should be part of the process.

Upgrading may involve agreeing to a Windows license agreement. In general, the process simply involves Windows checking and downloading any additional updates behind the scenes, and then completing the process itself.

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The upgrade will proceed through the update phase, through to the installation phase (performed on an otherwise blank screen) and then a series of reboots while Windows goes through the final process. You may see an additional series of screens that can occur during the setup of a new PC. Aside from approving the license agreement (which Windows didn’t always ask for), the update proceeded without supervision.

I used four notebooks, listed here from newest to oldest. The time it took to update follows. This did not include “pre-updating” the PC or downloading the ISO file, just the time it took after I clicked the “setup” application inside the Windows 11 ISO file. I would expect this to be the same time your PC would take to update if it progressed through the normal Windows Update channels.

MSI Prestige 16 AI Evo B1MG: Core Ultra 7 155H/32GB RAM/1TB SSD: one hour, two minutesMicrosoft Surface Laptop Studio 2: Core i7-13700H/64GB RAM/1 TB SSD: one hour, 37 minutesHP Victus: Core i7-11800H/16GB RAM/512GB SSD: one hour, 27 minutesMicrosoft Surface Laptop 3: Core i7-1065G7/16GB RAM/256GB SSD: one hour, 45 minutes

It does appear that older laptops will take longer to upgrade, which makes sense. I actually had the Surface Laptop Studio 2 enrolled as part of the Dev Channel on Microsoft’s Windows Insider program, but it hadn’t been updated in some time. I was able to set the Windows Update settings to exit the Insider program (which normally requires a fresh install of Windows, erasing everything) without the need to remove my apps and files.

While I can’t truly know how long your PC will take to update to the Windows 11 2024 Update, you should probably set aside an hour or two, especially with an older PC. Good luck!

Mark has written for PCWorld for the last decade, with 30 years of experience covering technology. He has authored over 3,500 articles for PCWorld alone, covering PC microprocessors, peripherals, and Microsoft Windows, among other topics. Mark has written for publications including PC Magazine, Byte, eWEEK, Popular Science and Electronic Buyers’ News, where he shared a Jesse H. Neal Award for breaking news. He recently handed over a collection of several dozen Thunderbolt docks and USB-C hubs because his office simply has no more room.

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Hack Netflix: 6 ways to find something awesome to watch

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Netflix has thousands of videos in its mammoth streaming catalog. Yet picking just the right show for a given night isn’t the chillaxing experience it should be.

Indeed, the busy Netflix interface frequently pushes the same recommendations over and over, leaving the false impression that instead of having heaps of videos to choose from, you have just a dozen or so.

But once you know what you’re doing, you can take a deep dive into Netflix’s collection of movies and TV episodes, slicing and dicing its categories to pinpoint the perfect video for the moment. You can also help Netflix make better guesses at what you’ll like. Finally, you can easily save your picks for later, making it easy to fire up a favorite flick with a minimum of fuss.

Filter by genre

We all know the feeling of scrolling aimlessly through one Netflix category after another, from “Reality TV” and “TV Dramas” to “Thrillers” and “Suspenseful Movies.” If you’d rather not just passively browse through the categories that Netflix chooses to serve up, try this.

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First, click either TV Shows or Movies at the top of the Netflix homepage. Once you do, a Genres pull-down menu will appear.

Click it to reveal a selection of about 20 different genres, from “Action” and “Documentaries” for movies and “Anime” and “Stand-Up & Talk Shows” on the TV side.

Browse more refined categories

Browsing Netflix’s genres is a good first step toward finding the perfect video, but the categories listed in the genres menu are much more broad than the sliced-and-diced collections listed in the main Netflix interface. What if you’re in the mood for, say, a spy movie, a western, a classic musical, or a sports drama? There’s a way to pick and choose between dozens of niche Netflix categories, but it requires a little legwork.

On your desktop, browse to Netflix-Codes.com. No, we’re not talking discount codes here; instead, the site lists scores of codes that you can paste into a Netflix URL.

Just plug in the code (or, even easier, just right-click the code on the webpage) to jump any number of laser-focused Netflix categories, from “Comic book and superhero movies” and “Film noir” to “Deep sea horror movies” (seriously) and “Food & travel shows.” It’s a great way to uncover some of Netflix’s hidden gems.

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Filter by year

The vast majority of shows and movies that appear on the Netflix homepage hail from the past five years or so. If you want to see something from the 1990s or earlier, you’ll need to dig. And while you can sort Netflix’s listings by year from the desktop Netflix interface (click TV Shows or Movies, click the grid icon in the upper-right corner, and then select Year Released from the drop-down), you’ll need to scroll and scroll to get past the 2010s—and no, you can’t reverse sort by year.

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Luckily, there are plenty of third-party options to help you zero in on classic movies and TV shows. Reelgood, for example, boasts sliders that let you filter Netflix search results according to year. Just start browsing for movies or TV shows, click the Filter button, then adjust the “release year” slider. You can also filter by user and IMDb ratings while you’re at it.

Reelgood isn’t the only service that will let you filter Netflix’s catalog by year; JustWatch is another option, as is Trakt.

Rate as many videos as you can

Netflix can have some strange ideas about the videos it thinks you want to watch, but you can help nudge its algorithms in the right direction.

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Whenever you can, be sure to click one of the thumbs–either thumbs down, thumbs up, or two thumbs up–on the title page of a Netflix video. The more movies and TV shows you rate, the better Netflix’s recommendations will become. Don’t be afraid to rate a video you haven’t seen; if, say, torture movies aren’t your bag, just click thumbs-down on sight.

You can also review all your previous ratings, which is handy if you’ve changed your mind about a given title. Just hover your mouse over your profile icon in the top-right corner of the Netflix homepage, click Account, Manage Profiles, select your own Netflix profile, then click Viewing Activity (don’t forget to click the Ratings tab at the top).

Once there, you can click another thumb to change an old rating, or click the currently selected thumb to wipe the rating completely.

One of the easiest ways to find a movie or a TV show you’ll like is by checking the related videos of your favorites. Depending on your platform, however, Netflix does a spotty job of recommending movies and shows based on the videos you’re browsing.

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The Netflix on my Apple TV, for example, doesn’t show related videos at all, while the Netflix iOS app has a “More Like This” section prominently placed on the title page of a video.

If your Netflix app of choice isn’t serving up related video, just visit Netflix on your desktop, hover over a title, click the down-arrow that appears on the bottom, and then click More Like This.

Rediscover your queue

So, you’ve found some Netflix videos you’re dying to watch. Now what? Well, those of us who were loyal Netflix-by-mail subscribers will remember the vaunted Netflix queue, a place where we carefully curated the list of scores or even hundreds of movies and shows we wanted to watch.

As it began its slow shift away from DVDs and toward streaming, Netflix seemingly tired of the queue, eventually renaming it “My List” and shuffling it into a hard-to-find row in the main interface.

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While the queue—er, My List—eventually found its way back to the main Netflix UI, it lost much of its functionality along the way. On a desktop browser, you can’t rearrange your queue at all, while on the iOS version of Netflix, you get some basic filters (TV shows, movies, “started,” and “haven’t watched”) and sorting options (like alphabetically, date added to list, release date, or “top matches” according to Netflix), and that’s it.

If you really want to take charge of your Netflix queue, you’re probably better off ditching it in favor of one of the third-party services we mentioned previously, like Reelgood, JustWatch, or Trakt. Yes, it’s annoying to have to switch apps, but the sad truth is that Netflix’s My List just doesn’t cut it anymore.

Ben has been writing about technology and consumer electronics for more than 20 years. A PCWorld contributor since 2014, Ben joined our sister site TechHive in 2019, where he has covered everything from smart speakers and soundbars to smart lights and security cameras. Ben’s articles have also appeared in PC Magazine, TIME, Wired, CNET, Men’s Fitness, Mobile Magazine, and more. Ben holds a master’s degree in English literature.