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RIP? Third-party podcast app Castro appears to be dead, company goes quiet

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The once popular third-party podcast app Castro had seemingly shut down this weekend, after earlier saying that it was “actively seeking a new home” for its product. The announcement had followed rumors that the company would soon be closing down, spurred by a post from a former Castro employee Mohit Mamoria who, in November, wrote on X that the app would be shut down over the next two months.

In a blog post on castro.fm, Castro’s team in December apologized for the app’s downtime due to a recent issue that had required “extensive work” to fix, and noted that any communication about the app’s future outside of Castro itself was “not official” and did “not represent Castro’s views” — an indirect reference to the X post which had prompted a number of media reports about the app’s impending closure.

The company also confirmed that, although it had seen employee departures, it wanted to apologize for the “unnecessary panic that may have arisen from these conversations.” The post additionally noted that Castro was seeking new owners for its podcast app in order to continue to provide users with service. TechCrunch’s requests for comment at the time of this initial report were not returned, however.

Reddit users were the first to notice the current outage with the Casto app, saying over the weekend that the app would no longer load new podcasts or export the ones they have — meaning, they would not be able to easily migrate to another app. Several also expressed frustration with the lack of transparency from the app’s makers, noting they would have appreciated a heads-up that the app was being shut down.

“Why all the silence and secrecy? It’s a huge slap in the face to people who have paid for and promoted the app for years,” wrote one Reddit user who goes by the handle g-money-cheats.

Castro sold a majority stake to Dribble’s owner Tiny in 2018, but its creators at the time said they were still shareholders and would continue working on the app full-time. Citing the reasons for the sale, they said the app had reached the size where the demands of running the business had pulled them in too many different directions, and Tiny would provide them with more resources, contacts and expertise.

Castro’s website was also not working on Monday morning, but a tweet from the company clarified on Monday evening that DNS issues it had claimed to have experienced were now resolved and users should once again have access. Some users were still suspicious of the timing, however, given that the company made no announcement on X when the site and app first went down.

Concerns over Castro’s future, and the fate of the indie podcast app industry as a whole, have broadened in recent years as Spotify entered the market to compete with Apple Podcasts. That move influenced the exits of other smaller podcast apps, which included the sale of Pocket Casts to a collective of radio broadcasters, including NPR and BBC Studios. The app was then sold again to WordPress.com owner Automattic in 2021. Satellite radio provider and Pandora owner SiriusXM also bought the podcast app Stitcher in 2020 for $325 million. That leaves the market with fewer third-party apps outside of the tech giants, with Overcast, Podbean and a handful of others remaining.

Another request for comment from Casto owner Tiny was not returned at of the time of writing.

Article updated, 1/8/24, 6:45 pm pt to note Castro claimed DNS issues had impacted its website. 

 

podcast microphone

RIP? Third-party podcast app Castro appears to be dead, company goes quiet

podcast microphone

Image Credits: Pexels (opens in a new window)

The once popular third-party podcast app Castro had seemingly shut down this weekend, after earlier saying that it was “actively seeking a new home” for its product. The announcement had followed rumors that the company would soon be closing down, spurred by a post from a former Castro employee Mohit Mamoria who, in November, wrote on X that the app would be shut down over the next two months.

In a blog post on castro.fm, Castro’s team in December apologized for the app’s downtime due to a recent issue that had required “extensive work” to fix, and noted that any communication about the app’s future outside of Castro itself was “not official” and did “not represent Castro’s views” — an indirect reference to the X post which had prompted a number of media reports about the app’s impending closure.

The company also confirmed that, although it had seen employee departures, it wanted to apologize for the “unnecessary panic that may have arisen from these conversations.” The post additionally noted that Castro was seeking new owners for its podcast app in order to continue to provide users with service. TechCrunch’s requests for comment at the time of this initial report were not returned, however.

Reddit users were the first to notice the current outage with the Casto app, saying over the weekend that the app would no longer load new podcasts or export the ones they have — meaning, they would not be able to easily migrate to another app. Several also expressed frustration with the lack of transparency from the app’s makers, noting they would have appreciated a heads-up that the app was being shut down.

“Why all the silence and secrecy? It’s a huge slap in the face to people who have paid for and promoted the app for years,” wrote one Reddit user who goes by the handle g-money-cheats.

Castro sold a majority stake to Dribble’s owner Tiny in 2018, but its creators at the time said they were still shareholders and would continue working on the app full-time. Citing the reasons for the sale, they said the app had reached the size where the demands of running the business had pulled them in too many different directions, and Tiny would provide them with more resources, contacts and expertise.

Castro’s website was also not working on Monday morning, but a tweet from the company clarified on Monday evening that DNS issues it had claimed to have experienced were now resolved and users should once again have access. Some users were still suspicious of the timing, however, given that the company made no announcement on X when the site and app first went down.

Concerns over Castro’s future, and the fate of the indie podcast app industry as a whole, have broadened in recent years as Spotify entered the market to compete with Apple Podcasts. That move influenced the exits of other smaller podcast apps, which included the sale of Pocket Casts to a collective of radio broadcasters, including NPR and BBC Studios. The app was then sold again to WordPress.com owner Automattic in 2021. Satellite radio provider and Pandora owner SiriusXM also bought the podcast app Stitcher in 2020 for $325 million. That leaves the market with fewer third-party apps outside of the tech giants, with Overcast, Podbean and a handful of others remaining.

Another request for comment from Casto owner Tiny was not returned at of the time of writing.

Article updated, 1/8/24, 6:45 pm pt to note Castro claimed DNS issues had impacted its website. 

 

Podcast app Castro now owned by indie developer Bluck Apps

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Nearly two months after Castro, the third-party podcast app, announced it was seeking new ownership, the company revealed today that it has officially been bought by Bluck Apps, an independent app studio that developed Android podcast app Aurelian.

In November, Castro’s future was questioned when a former employee, Mohit Mamoria, posted on X that the app would soon shut down. Then the website went down, appearing to confirm the report. However, Castro disputed the claim and explained the reason behind the app’s downtime in a December blog post, saying it was due to a complex issue that required “extensive work” to fix.

Dustin Bluck, a former Instagram employee who launched his podcast app Aurelian as a passion project, now runs the show at Castro, and promises users there are no plans to make any significant changes to the app.

“We won’t be making any drastic changes, like overhauling the [user interface] to look more like TikTok. We’re not adding an AI chatbot. We’ll just keep running the podcast service you already love, with a few tweaks to modernize and keep things running smoothly,” Bluck wrote in today’s blog post, adding that the minor tweaks should help new episodes “sync more quickly.”

“Once things are stabilized and the transition is complete, we’ll be turning our attention toward new features, such as syncing across devices,” he explained.

As an indie developer, Bluck wants to make sure Castro still serves dedicated podcast listeners. “This is a niche, and we intend to serve that niche. If you have over 100 podcast subscriptions and listen to them all semi-regularly, you are probably one of our people,” Bluck said.

Bluck assured users that the subscription price is staying the same for the time being; however, users should subscribe to “Castro Plus” now to avoid a future price hike. Castro is free for users but offers an annual subscription for $29.99, including playback features and other advanced settings like skipping repetitive intros.

Meanwhile, Aurelian is being moved under the Castro umbrella and will use Castro’s back end for search and other capabilities. However, Bluck tells TechCrunch that Aurelian isn’t “necessarily merging with Castro,” but would consider them as siblings.

“It might become Castro, but I wouldn’t want to call it Castro until it actually fits into Castro’s Inbox/Queue workflow. I’m not yet sure if we’ll do that,” Bluck tells us.

Bluck declined to share how much he paid for Castro.

Castro’s new owner also apologized for how the company previously failed to communicate well with users in recent months. From now on, all major changes will be announced to the public, and the team will let users know in a timely manner if or when an issue is being fixed, he promised.

Bluck has his work cut out for him as he points out the “thousands of messages” from users that he and his very small team have to get through. While Bluck has hired a couple freelancers, he’s the only full-time employee as of now, so it will likely take some time before he can hire more people to help.

Castro has been a popular iOS podcast app for years, so it’s likely a relief to many that it’s not going anywhere. The app was acquired by Tiny back in 2018.

“I didn’t really expect people to be quite so passionate about the app. There’s a lot of work to do to make those fans happy, but the reception has been very encouraging,” Bluck admitted. “We are very committed to the open podcasting ecosystem, and taking over such a well-designed independent app is very cool for us.”

RIP? Third-party podcast app Castro appears to be dead, company goes quiet