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How low can bitcoin ETF fees drop before it hurts a business?

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It’s been a little over a day since 11 spot bitcoin ETFs began trading in the U.S., following the SEC’s approval. While there was more initial volume than some expected, some of the approved issuers are taking extra steps to ensure that their product stands out from the pack.

On Thursday, Franklin Templeton’s Franklin Bitcoin ETF ranked sixth among the 11 for first day trading volume at $65.45 million by the end of the day.

But the company wants more. By Friday, the firm lowered its fee from 29 basis points to 19 basis points, making it the lowest post-waiver fee across all the spot bitcoin ETFs, 0.01% lower than Bitwise’s 0.2% fee. (Note: A number of issuers, Franklin included, are waiving fees for a limited time.) The highest fee stands at 1.5% for Grayscale’s Bitcoin Trust.

There’s reason to believe that spot bitcoin ETFs and other related products that may come to market will see strong demand over time, and major investment houses want a piece of the action. “People are waking up to this new type of investment ecosystem,” said Sandy Kaul, head of digital asset and industry advisory services at Franklin Templeton. “We’ve seen a definite expansion of interest from our client base in the past 12 to 18 months.”

The first day of trading saw $2.3 billion worth of trading volume across all the products, Bloomberg senior ETF analyst Eric Balchunas posted on X. An additional preexisting $2.3 billion from Grayscale’s GBTC fund, which converted into a spot bitcoin ETF on Wednesday, brought the 11 issuers’ total to $4.6 billion.

“Long term, I think this will definitely be well over one of our leading products in our $20 billion ETF franchise,” Kaul said. The 77-year-old firm manages over $1.4 trillion in assets under management. “We definitely see this as a major product and we see this as one with a lot of potential to grow. So we’re going to be patient because it’s so new, and many people are still trying to learn about it so it may grow slower than expected, or much faster, we don’t know what will happen.”

https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/10/grayscale-ceo-spot-bitcoin-etf/

“We want to really give investors as many benefits as possible to be able to see the impact this has on their portfolio,” Kaul said. “This is a more expensive product to launch than many other types of ETFs due to custodying — it’s been harder to come up with the right pricing on it.”

But like a game of limbo, many are asking: How low can you go with fees? While seven issuers are offering waived fees for a certain amount of time — or until they hit a certain amount of volume — zero fees are not going to last forever, and some argue that low fees can’t, either.

Considering the backdoor costs of insuring the bitcoin, paying custodians and other expenses, Franklin’s 0.19% fee could be making a dent in overall costs more than profiting. But maybe some of these businesses don’t care about that right now, if it means they can acquire more clients and volume.

“We decided that we have such belief in the long-term growth potential of the product,” Kaul said. “We rather people get the full benefit right away.”

Weighing fees and profits

For the fee-waiving period, Franklin and other issuers will pay the costs for expenses to begin with. “That’s a hard decision when you’re trying to launch a product and make it profitable,” Kaul said.

But not everyone agrees with this move. “I don’t think it helps being in the lower range when you factor in the risk of holding bitcoin in a custodian,” Valkyrie Funds co-founder Steven McClurg told TechCrunch+ this week. “Say insurance is needed in the future on those assets; you won’t be able to buy because your fees are too low.”

As issuers try to gauge the marketplace and its economics, in the short-term, there will be changes in fee structures, Kaul said. But Franklin’s previous trading in bitcoin and other portfolios give it an “advantage,” she said. “This isn’t new for us; we’ve dealt with custody, moving bitcoin in and out. Obviously, if something happened with insurance and the fee didn’t cover it, we’d revisit the fee structure, but we’ve run many ETFs and I don’t think we’d come out with pricing we couldn’t maintain.”

Kaul said she thinks Franklin’s spot bitcoin ETF will be at “break even” when its zero fee waiver conditions expire in August or when it hits $10 billion AUM (assets under management), whichever comes first. She also said the firm anticipates the costs it’s paying today will come down a little bit, giving them more leeway.

“I think this is going to be a slower build product,” Kaul said. “Not all the distribution partners we work with will be able to list it quickly or easily; it might take them six to 12 months to list the fund.”

She’s hopeful, but patient. The first year is all about helping the ETF product’s AUM continue to build, Kaul added. “We waited 10 years to get a spot bitcoin ETF, so we can be patient to watch it grow.”

N26 app depicted on smartphone

N26 launches stock and ETF trading to complement its banking offering

N26 app depicted on smartphone

Image Credits: N26

Berlin-based banking startup N26 is rolling out a new stock and ETF trading feature starting with Austria as the first market. This product launch marks a renewed focus on the startup’s core markets with a larger portfolio of banking products in those countries.

Like many challenger banks, N26 started with a simple product — an account that you could use to send and receive money, and a card that you could manage in real time from a mobile app. And the company managed to convince millions of customers to open an account as it simply worked better than regular banks (banking apps usually aren’t that great).

Over time, the company expanded to more markets and started adding more products. After several years of huge funding rounds and several hiring sprees, and like many other tech companies, the company is shifting its focus to efficiency and profitability.

After opening offices in the U.S. and Brazil, N26 decided to reverse course and focus exclusively on Europe — and more specifically Germany, France, Spain and Italy.

There’s another reason why N26 doesn’t want to be spread too thin. Germany’s financial regulator BaFin started to look more closely at N26’s operations back in 2021. And BaFin still enforces a cap on client signups today. N26 can only accept 60,000 new clients a month.

“I hope that we’ll be getting out of any kind of restrictions in the next couple of quarters, but it’s very hard to predict,” N26 co-founder and CEO Valentin Stalf told me.

As a result, N26 has been ramping up its anti-money laundering controls to better comply with regulators. At the same time, the company has been trying to improve its margins and find new revenue sources for its existing customer base.

After credit and savings, N26 adds stock trading

Adding stock and ETF trading is part of this strategy of increasing the average revenue per user. N26 is partnering with Upvest for this feature. Users will be able to drag and drop money from their main N26 account to this new trading space.

After that, they can choose how much money they want to invest in a particular ETF or stock. N26 supports fractional shares, meaning that users can buy a fraction of an Apple or Netflix share for as little as €1. And when it’s time to sell, users can either decide to reinvest what they got from that transaction or receive the money instantly back in their main N26 account.

N26 charges €0.90 per trade and premium customers will soon get a handful of free trades per month depending on their subscription plan. Ideally, stock trading will boost premium subscriptions as margins are very good on these subscriptions.

This is going to be a slow rollout as trading will only be available in Austria at first. It will also be limited to 100 ETFs with stocks coming later. But the company says that it will be available in Germany “in the coming months.” Other European countries will follow suit.

N26 recently rolled out savings accounts in Spain and Germany with an interest rate of 2.6% currently. Customers can also get a loan of up to €25,000 from the app. In some markets, N26 also offers crypto trading directly in the app.

In other words, N26 is slowly turning into a full-fledge bank with all the features you would expect from a bank. With stock trading, N26 competes with trading apps like Trade Republic. But N26’s main advantage is that everything is bundled in one app.

The company currently has more than 8 million customers (including 4.2 million “revenue-relevant” customers). It has €8 billion in assets under management and handles more than €110 billion in transaction volume per year.

The company sent me some (unaudited) financial data about N26’s performance in 2023. And the startup significantly increased its revenue in 2023 with more than €300 million coming from interchange fees, subscription revenue, credit products and interest revenue from customer deposits.

But the company still had a €100 million loss in 2023. That’s much better than 2022 as N26 reported a €213 million loss that year. But there’s still some work to do to reach profitability.

“By the end of last year, we were almost already break even on a monthly basis,” Stalf said. “So we continue this now. During the second half of the year, I think we’ll be profitable on a monthly basis as a full company.”

Image Credits: N26

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How low can bitcoin ETF fees drop before it hurts a business?

acquisition, merger, startup

Image Credits: Getty Images

It’s been a little over a day since 11 spot bitcoin ETFs began trading in the U.S., following the SEC’s approval. While there was more initial volume than some expected, some of the approved issuers are taking extra steps to ensure that their product stands out from the pack.

On Thursday, Franklin Templeton’s Franklin Bitcoin ETF ranked sixth among the 11 for first day trading volume at $65.45 million by the end of the day.

But the company wants more. By Friday, the firm lowered its fee from 29 basis points to 19 basis points, making it the lowest post-waiver fee across all the spot bitcoin ETFs, 0.01% lower than Bitwise’s 0.2% fee. (Note: A number of issuers, Franklin included, are waiving fees for a limited time.) The highest fee stands at 1.5% for Grayscale’s Bitcoin Trust.

There’s reason to believe that spot bitcoin ETFs and other related products that may come to market will see strong demand over time, and major investment houses want a piece of the action. “People are waking up to this new type of investment ecosystem,” said Sandy Kaul, head of digital asset and industry advisory services at Franklin Templeton. “We’ve seen a definite expansion of interest from our client base in the past 12 to 18 months.”

The first day of trading saw $2.3 billion worth of trading volume across all the products, Bloomberg senior ETF analyst Eric Balchunas posted on X. An additional preexisting $2.3 billion from Grayscale’s GBTC fund, which converted into a spot bitcoin ETF on Wednesday, brought the 11 issuers’ total to $4.6 billion.

“Long term, I think this will definitely be well over one of our leading products in our $20 billion ETF franchise,” Kaul said. The 77-year-old firm manages over $1.4 trillion in assets under management. “We definitely see this as a major product and we see this as one with a lot of potential to grow. So we’re going to be patient because it’s so new, and many people are still trying to learn about it so it may grow slower than expected, or much faster, we don’t know what will happen.”

https://techcrunch.com/2024/01/10/grayscale-ceo-spot-bitcoin-etf/

“We want to really give investors as many benefits as possible to be able to see the impact this has on their portfolio,” Kaul said. “This is a more expensive product to launch than many other types of ETFs due to custodying — it’s been harder to come up with the right pricing on it.”

But like a game of limbo, many are asking: How low can you go with fees? While seven issuers are offering waived fees for a certain amount of time — or until they hit a certain amount of volume — zero fees are not going to last forever, and some argue that low fees can’t, either.

Considering the backdoor costs of insuring the bitcoin, paying custodians and other expenses, Franklin’s 0.19% fee could be making a dent in overall costs more than profiting. But maybe some of these businesses don’t care about that right now, if it means they can acquire more clients and volume.

“We decided that we have such belief in the long-term growth potential of the product,” Kaul said. “We rather people get the full benefit right away.”

Weighing fees and profits

For the fee-waiving period, Franklin and other issuers will pay the costs for expenses to begin with. “That’s a hard decision when you’re trying to launch a product and make it profitable,” Kaul said.

But not everyone agrees with this move. “I don’t think it helps being in the lower range when you factor in the risk of holding bitcoin in a custodian,” Valkyrie Funds co-founder Steven McClurg told TechCrunch+ this week. “Say insurance is needed in the future on those assets; you won’t be able to buy because your fees are too low.”

As issuers try to gauge the marketplace and its economics, in the short-term, there will be changes in fee structures, Kaul said. But Franklin’s previous trading in bitcoin and other portfolios give it an “advantage,” she said. “This isn’t new for us; we’ve dealt with custody, moving bitcoin in and out. Obviously, if something happened with insurance and the fee didn’t cover it, we’d revisit the fee structure, but we’ve run many ETFs and I don’t think we’d come out with pricing we couldn’t maintain.”

Kaul said she thinks Franklin’s spot bitcoin ETF will be at “break even” when its zero fee waiver conditions expire in August or when it hits $10 billion AUM (assets under management), whichever comes first. She also said the firm anticipates the costs it’s paying today will come down a little bit, giving them more leeway.

“I think this is going to be a slower build product,” Kaul said. “Not all the distribution partners we work with will be able to list it quickly or easily; it might take them six to 12 months to list the fund.”

She’s hopeful, but patient. The first year is all about helping the ETF product’s AUM continue to build, Kaul added. “We waited 10 years to get a spot bitcoin ETF, so we can be patient to watch it grow.”

N26 app depicted on smartphone

N26 launches stock and ETF trading to complement its banking offering

N26 app depicted on smartphone

Image Credits: N26

Berlin-based banking startup N26 is rolling out a new stock and ETF trading feature starting with Austria as the first market. This product launch marks a renewed focus on the startup’s core markets with a larger portfolio of banking products in those countries.

Like many challenger banks, N26 started with a simple product — an account that you could use to send and receive money, and a card that you could manage in real time from a mobile app. And the company managed to convince millions of customers to open an account as it simply worked better than regular banks (banking apps usually aren’t that great).

Over time, the company expanded to more markets and started adding more products. After several years of huge funding rounds and several hiring sprees, and like many other tech companies, the company is shifting its focus to efficiency and profitability.

After opening offices in the U.S. and Brazil, N26 decided to reverse course and focus exclusively on Europe — and more specifically Germany, France, Spain and Italy.

There’s another reason why N26 doesn’t want to be spread too thin. Germany’s financial regulator BaFin started to look more closely at N26’s operations back in 2021. And BaFin still enforces a cap on client signups today. N26 can only accept 60,000 new clients a month.

“I hope that we’ll be getting out of any kind of restrictions in the next couple of quarters, but it’s very hard to predict,” N26 co-founder and CEO Valentin Stalf told me.

As a result, N26 has been ramping up its anti-money laundering controls to better comply with regulators. At the same time, the company has been trying to improve its margins and find new revenue sources for its existing customer base.

After credit and savings, N26 adds stock trading

Adding stock and ETF trading is part of this strategy of increasing the average revenue per user. N26 is partnering with Upvest for this feature. Users will be able to drag and drop money from their main N26 account to this new trading space.

After that, they can choose how much money they want to invest in a particular ETF or stock. N26 supports fractional shares, meaning that users can buy a fraction of an Apple or Netflix share for as little as €1. And when it’s time to sell, users can either decide to reinvest what they got from that transaction or receive the money instantly back in their main N26 account.

N26 charges €0.90 per trade and premium customers will soon get a handful of free trades per month depending on their subscription plan. Ideally, stock trading will boost premium subscriptions as margins are very good on these subscriptions.

This is going to be a slow rollout as trading will only be available in Austria at first. It will also be limited to 100 ETFs with stocks coming later. But the company says that it will be available in Germany “in the coming months.” Other European countries will follow suit.

N26 recently rolled out savings accounts in Spain and Germany with an interest rate of 2.6% currently. Customers can also get a loan of up to €25,000 from the app. In some markets, N26 also offers crypto trading directly in the app.

In other words, N26 is slowly turning into a full-fledge bank with all the features you would expect from a bank. With stock trading, N26 competes with trading apps like Trade Republic. But N26’s main advantage is that everything is bundled in one app.

The company currently has more than 8 million customers (including 4.2 million “revenue-relevant” customers). It has €8 billion in assets under management and handles more than €110 billion in transaction volume per year.

The company sent me some (unaudited) financial data about N26’s performance in 2023. And the startup significantly increased its revenue in 2023 with more than €300 million coming from interchange fees, subscription revenue, credit products and interest revenue from customer deposits.

But the company still had a €100 million loss in 2023. That’s much better than 2022 as N26 reported a €213 million loss that year. But there’s still some work to do to reach profitability.

“By the end of last year, we were almost already break even on a monthly basis,” Stalf said. “So we continue this now. During the second half of the year, I think we’ll be profitable on a monthly basis as a full company.”

Image Credits: N26